Why does Claire say "D'ordinaire nous ne vendons pas de bouteilles non ouvertes" Shouldn't it be "des"?
De bouteilles?

andyscattergood
July 25, 2010

andyscattergood
July 25, 2010
In a subsequent conversation there seems to be an anomaly where "de" and "des" appear to be used in identical circumstances;-
Claire - Nous avons de charmants tableaux par ici.
Paul - Est-ce que vous avez des pantoufles?
I don't suppose that both can be right but I would be very interested to find out how the circumstances differ if they are both right.
Andy

gndmoss
July 29, 2010
I was taught that if in the negative using ne / pas you always use "de" afterward, never "des".
I learned this in a french class.

Marie-Claire-Riviere
August 3, 2010
Salut!
Great question! Keep 'em coming!
The reason we transform "des" into "de" is because there is extra information about the noun.
For example: un tableau (a painting) - des tableaux (paintings)
un _beau_ tableau (a beautiful painting) - de _beaux_ tableaux (beautiful paintings)
As soon as something comes between the indefinite article plural (des) and the noun, "des" becomes "de".
"Des" also becomes "de" in the negative form of a sentence.
For example: J'ai des chevaux (I have horses) - Je n'ai pas de chevaux (I don't have horses).
I hope this helps and if you have any other questions, let me know! :D

Jackie-O
February 9, 2011
I need to know when to add les and des to a sentence.

Marie-Claire-Riviere
February 21, 2011
Salut Jackie,
This is something that doesn't really have a particular rule - it goes with the context of a sentence. The best way to learn this is by going through the course and learning about these as you go bit-by-bit.
If you have a specific sentence in mind, please let me know!
Maire-Claire