... où l'on peut vous joindre Chapter 4.3

Doing my spaced repetition of some of the content in the course I came across this sentense from lesson 4.3:

Avez-vous un numéro de téléphone où l'on peut vous joindre ?

Doing another lesson about pronouns I was wondering if the l' in front of on was a pronoun for téléphone.

Wondering about this, I asked chatGPT about it and it told me that the l' is mainly inserted to make it easier to pronounce, because où on has to vowels. Meaning the où ends with a vowel and the on starts with one.

It also told me that this is used more in formal and written french and that it's not as commen in every day spoken french.

Does anybody know about this? 

Regards - Armin

unfortunately this forum appears to be kinda dead …

Dissapointed that Rocket French are not answering you…

@Peter-gqa7: well, not necessarily the team, but anybody

I think it's great to have a forum, but it would be even greater if it was more active.

But I have another language learning tool, that I use in addition to rocket languages, that uses AI for conversations and also grammar practice or explenations and I asked it about the phrase.

I got the same answer then from chatgpt but more precise, which makes sense, cause it is specialised on language learning. 
The “l'on” is often used in more formal or written French. It is often used after words like "où", "si", "et" oder "que". It is more elegant and makes the “on” easier to pronounce.
The sentense would also be correct without the “l” though: "Avez-vous un numéro de téléphone où on peut vous joindre?"

I guess I won't be asking many questions here anymore, since I get very good answers from the AI language learning tool and also the possibility to practice the grammar I asked about in a flexible way.

Rocket languages might consider looking into AI some more. ;-)

Hi Armin,

Thanks for the info, I'll give it a go.

All the best for now.

Rocket announced a planned revamp of the forum, and asked for our views. My main aspiration like ArminZ would be prompt responses to questions from a native speaker.  I am getting more comfortable with the use of AI, so if such responses are accurate, it would be hard to beat, n'est-ce pas?

Chris

I can only stress on this - AI is quite amazing with language learning. It is like having a private tutor really. From my personal experience: I ask questions and get good explenations and can practice immediately, ask follow up questions for more detail or something that hasn't been clear for me yet.
If rocket languages wants to stay competative they should really look into it.

Bonjour,

I just thought I'd add in my two cents worth.

The information you found is correct, “l'on” is all about euphony.  These are small grammatical changes that are designed to maintain the flow and musicality of the lanaguge. Generally speaking that means making changes to avoid any awkward pauses or stops between words that interrupts the flow. 

On the AI note, it is great and is particularly good for giving you more example sentences for certain structures etc. I'm going to pass these comments on to the team, in case it's not already on their radar.

Have a great day,

   -   Mitchell