Forum Order of lessons

Order of lessons

ArdenMage

ArdenMage

Do you take lessons in order? Can you alternate between Audio lessons and the Culture Grammar lessons? How do most people do it? Are they meant to go in order?

Scott_C

Scott_C

I believe most people do them in order as they tend to build on each other (and some lessons refer to previous lessons). But if you really like the grammar lesson, you could do just those. On the other hand, you could do just the Audio lessons and probably do very well also. It depends on what you like.

 

For all of Level 1, I just did them in order. At some point in Level 2, I decided I wasn't enjoying the Audio lessons as much as the grammar lessons, so started just doing the grammar lessons and came back to the audio lessons later (some are still waiting for me).

 

You could also skip around, targeting areas you have questions on, but this would be for a person who already has at least a moderate understanding of Spanish.

 

Hope that helps!

ArdenMage

ArdenMage

THanks, Scott. I am feeling the same way about the audio lessons in level 2 of Italian. Seems a big leap from the audio lessons of level one. I am going to go back and review, but with my level of frustration, I may leap into the language/culture lessons ahead of the audio lessons.

Scott_C

Scott_C

Funny, I also felt like it was a big leap in difficulty going from Level 1 to Level 2.  That may well have been the source of my move to focus on grammar.

ArminZ

ArminZ

I usually alternate between audiolessons and grammar, cause I am not one of the lucky ones who enjoy grammar (it is a mystery to me how someone can like grammar ;-) ).

I enjoy speaking french and perfecting my pronunciation, Immersion (podcasts etc.).

Since I don't enjoy grammar at all, I alternate and that way I don't lose my motivation and I don't get stuck in the grammar lessons, because of that.

I think it should be okay to alternate within a module.

Scott_C

Scott_C

I think I just like to be told, vs figure it out through examples. But I like your method, mix in both so that you don't have to do so many of the things you don't love as much in a row.

ArdenMage

ArdenMage

I think I just needed permission to mix and match these lessons. Being numbered, it felt like I needed to go in order--that they built on each one.

ClaudiaR27

ClaudiaR27

I usually do the lessons in order, but if I need a particular grammar lesson, I do it, even when it is out oforder.  I also go back and forth on reviewing as needed.

ArminZ

ArminZ

How I see it is:

  • - the language lessons have an order 
  • - the grammar lessons have an order
  • So I do the language lessons in order and the grammar lessons in order, but I alternate between language lessons and grammar lessons. That turned out to be possible in my experience.

 

In addition I do:

  • - repeat lessons
  • - put all the grammar lessons kinda summed up in my own grammar skript in my native language. That is great for me, cause it is another learning step and I can look up things really quickly.
  • - flashcards with some material from the course, to let it sink in over time
  • - Chat gpt: I have lately been asking AI when I have grammar questions that come up sometimes. That usually happens in grammar lessons, where some usage of grammar that is unfamiliar to me, but that is not the grammar subject of the lesson, so it does not get explained. 
  • AI could give me really comprehensable answers to my questions a couple of times, which is kind of spooky, but it seems to work well. 
  • I told a french guy about this and he asked for and read the AI-explenation and said, that he couldn't have explained it better. While native speakers can usually correct you well, in the way that they tell you how to say things the right way, but often can't really explain to you why.
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ArdenMage

ArdenMage

Great ideas--especially Chat GPT. I hadn't thought of that.

I do have problems getting some of the lessons to sink in. I need to repeat more lessons.

I have never gotten the hang of the flash cards.

ArminZ

ArminZ

yup, repeating lessons is important, I think, cause we're not learning for school to pass a test and then forget about it ;-)

Also podcasts in your target language are helpful. I have a few easy french podcasts that I listen to, and youtube channels with content (I love “french comprehensive input” - the guy is great).

the flashcards are another tool for repetition, always hoping that also some grammar sinks in just through hearing and speaking it.

Scott_C

Scott_C

I love the AI idea. it does work really well.

ArminZ

ArminZ

Yes, AI is quite good in explaining grammar questions.
I found out that it can also explain subtle differences quite well.
I get text from a native french guy sometimes and he uses more familiar french then I am used to and I asked AI what the differences are in his sentense and a more formular one, one that a translation app gave me.
You can even have conversations with AI, but it speaks so fast and is not able to slow down, that I get stressed, so I prefer the scripted conversations we have here. 

Scott_C

Scott_C

I tried a typed conversation with ChatGPT, telling it I wanted an A2 level of conversation. It kept everything in the present tense but it's vocabulary is large, and it writes a lot to a simple question (in Spanish, with some mistakes in it - on purpose to see how it handled it). It definitely can carry on a conversation about nothing, but I found it too verbose. I guess I wanted a Dick and Jane level of conversation, but I know I need to work harder than that.

 

One nice thing, when I told it I wanted an A1 level, it provided much shorter sentences and gave suggested responses below it. Pretty impressive actually.

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